Revelation- from the creation of the world

Revelation 17:8

The beast, which you saw, once was, now is not, and yet will come up out of the Abyss and go to its destruction. The inhabitants of the earth whose names have not been written in the book of life from the creation of the world will be astonished when they see the beast, because it once was, now is not, and yet will come.

Revelation 13:8-9

All inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast—all whose names have not been written in the Lamb’s book of life, the Lamb who was slain from the creation of the world. Whoever has ears, let them hear.

Revelation 20:15

Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire.

In these verses a peculiar timeline is referenced: "from the creation of the world." If one accepts the timeline of the Bible where God created the world and then thousands of years later Jesus was slain, how could this lamb be a reference to Jesus? One might say that this is a reference to how God sees time, but with Jesus' resurrection would God not see Jesus as living? As I read through these verses this time through this is actually reminding me of the scapegoat scenario, where there are two goats (in this case it would be two lambs), one that lives (and enters the wilderness) and one that dies. Perhaps that entry in The Law is meant to illuminate this obscure reference (as Jesus could also be called one who was, then was not, and will come again, if one instead considers that the timeframe here is when the lamb "was slain from the creation of the world" which might be in reference to pocket realms created during the 3 days when Jesus was in the grave).

If this is the case it feels like it lines up really well with the idea that the timelines are running in different directions and repeating themselves in a way. Essentially in the first pass things would go wrong and this slain lamb would have no one in their book because they had been slain since the beginning. Once the end occurs this lamb is brought to life, and now has a chance to review events and fill the book as they see fit, but things would likely seem off, time wise. Keep in mind that in this interpretation, since no one is initially in the book, all enter the lake of fire on the first pass (all the more reason to imagine it in a merciful arrangement, even if one only considered they are found so as a way of loving their enemy per Jesus' command). It feels almost like in the first pass the mark of the beast is like a trick, something meant to be unavoidable and beneath notice, such that the second pass might then be much simpler. This could still fit with the saints being spared this, if instead of being in this world there are those Jesus pulls out of this world prior to these events and houses in his own pocket realm (memory/imagination?), like the rapture often preached, but this does not seem like it would then be a final destination as much as a way to avoid this U-Turn juncture.

I also found this reference to be interesting:

Revelation 13:18

This calls for wisdom. Let the person who has insight calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man. That number is 666.

Hosea 13:13

Pains as of a woman in childbirth come to him,

    but he is a child without wisdom;

when the time arrives,

    he doesn’t have the sense to come out of the womb.

There are multiple references in Revelation to something requiring wisdom, but in Hosea it feels like the prediction (likely for the first pass in this arrangement of things) is that one does not have wisdom on this first pass, and so one does not (all do not) have the sense to leave the womb (reality, as presently understood?). If one takes the word "wisdom" to be the name Wisdom here, it could be that Wisdom was the lamb slain since the creation of the world, and that only on the second pass is she meant to be seen (likely snagging/writing the name of "the one who is victorious" first and then reconciling the rest of things from there, possibly just utilizing the rules of agreement). In this case, only once she is in the equation specifically will verses marked with "this requires Wisdom" make sense, almost like an encryption key provided at this juncture.

While I speak of sequential timelines here, kind of a back and forth process, it feels more like these U-Turns are happening constantly beneath (my) notice, as if these timelines are not running on the anything near the same clock as what I am familiar with, and in another sense might be said to be always taking place beneath the scenes, perhaps timelessly and simultaneously from my perspective. This admittedly complex image and fanciful story would result in something like a signal forming between the realm referenced in Revelation and the realm that I am in now (connecting back to the realm at creation), one that might strengthen or weaken for me depending on my resonance with said signal, but from another perspective one which might be a search along a timeline constantly bouncing back and forth from beginning to end to beginning again. 

One additional thought:

John 8:44

"You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies."

This always made me wonder who the devil could have murdered at the beginning. While one might make timeless perspective arguments again here, or arguments regarding Cain being pretty close to the beginning, in the context of this image I am now considering that the moment of the beginning may have had 4 entities (though there is complexity to even this): God, Jesus (the living lamb), (the slain lamb, name not entirely clear), Satan (who was a defacto murderer in this case because Creation began, thus for there to be those living then this second lamb needed to exist in it as slain). In this context Satan would have run in order to expand Creation, testing its limits, perhaps understanding that at some point this lamb would gain living form and have a chance to walk Creation on their own. This fits surprisingly well with the image I saw of the 4 players agreeing to rules of reality like a game, with the last always passing her turn. In that image she passed until nearly the end and then chose to enter the game, but her lack of direct agreement with the rules made prior to entry (though familiar with them, having observed them) put her in a very powerful position in the game's context. This seems like it would be quite similar to having the opportunity to observe until the end (or perhaps very nearly the end, if cards are played right) and then run the timeline back.

I recently had a dream with Hope in it that inspired a similar image of her shifting from a slideshow of herself into a fully formed person in my realm, but in this version of things it is as though roles are reversed, and now I would be the one shifting into focus. More likely it is a scenario where each side is being tuned into the other, as the optimal solution does not seem to be one moving into the other's realm, but a true merging of realms, as I have written before. There is something deeply exciting about this, even if it does end up being declared unnecessarily complicated. *stompstompstomp*